Mary Kay Sucks

I stumbled upon this blog a few days ago. I don’t know what drew me there because I have never sold Mary Kay Cosmetics, nor have I purchased them. (If you read my recent post about the “spa day” on here then you’d probably figure out that I am a fairly low maintinence type who rarely wears make up and treats her skin horribly.)

I keep asking myself why I spend so much time at MKS. It’s like a club, really, which keeps attracting new members each day I am there. This week they are doing a series on whether or not Mary Kay fits the description of a cult. It does seem to hit some of those qualities but of course so do many of the organized churches in our fair country so it’s hard to say how it matters really.

Perhaps that is my question. What is it that matters here? I am so intruiged by the dynamics of this blog. One moment the participants are discussing their level of experience with the organization, which is very impressive. This is not simply a group of disgruntled ex-employees, part timers, people who wanted something for nothing. From what I can gather it is a diverse group, some still in the organization, some even at high levels. The next moment the whole thing deteriorates into a “fashion don’ts” list aimed at specific upper level people. The comments that follow are relentless and build one upon another. It’s sad really how a train rolls down the tracks, seemingly out of control, carreening downhill and instead of people jumping off, they are actually jumping “on.”

But I don’t think this is because these women are mean spirited or bitchy. I think it is because they are angry and hurt. Many of the posts bring forth such a degree of injury it’s almost hard to read. I felt compelled to offer encouragement and forgiveness. There are many things in the world that seek to work against women. We are cursed with the delusion that beauty is all and that we are not worthy, not good enough, not beautiful enough, not smart enough. I find this to be very disturbing, watching these women tear each other down as they tear themselves down in the process.

It makes sense though, their anger, their hurt. When you read their stories and see the expanse of the lies, the deception and the cost it does begin to make sense. The critics of the site talk often about these women being bitter and feeling sorry for themselves. Some of this is true. They are bitter, because they’ve been injured and not treated well. Their wounds were not given the proper salve to heal so they lie open and painful. The critics of this site might say that these women are a small representation of the company as a whole. I say that this makes no difference. The women who post there are still real and true. Their experience is still theirs and their pain still present. Is it not still the calling of those who profess Jesus as Messiah to look upon them with grace and love? Someone asked me in a post at a Pro MK site if they were supposed to just ignore the insults and barbs thrown at them and I say, Yes…yes, you are because that is what is asked of us.

I think there are many out there, still very committed to Mary Kay, who see this blog as some sort of threat to them. I cannot understand that, although I am trying. I have the impression from another blog I discovered that this battle has been going on for quite some time. They, also have been injured in the fray. They too, still smart from the verbal grenades thrown over their fence. The visual that comes to me around this however is one of the upper echelon sitting back and counting cash while the lower levels scramble and argue and without really knowing what the real fight is about.

Since I have no real insight into the workings of the company I can only speculate as I continue to watch and learn. I hope that I can do so with some honor and without having the urge to put on lipstick.


8 thoughts on “Mary Kay Sucks

  1. We have a thing a bit like that here in the UK. It has the same kind of effect, too. Maybe it’s about being part of a gang, that might explain the hurt of the people who feel they’ve been excluded and the people who are in and feel they are being harrassed…. hmm… just a thought.



  2. “Someone asked me in a post at a Pro MK site if they were supposed to just ignore the insults and barbs thrown at them and I say, Yes…yes, you are because that is what is asked of us.”

    Does He not ask it of the anti-MK people as well? Why can they not forgive and move on?

  3. Yes, Curious, He does. God is an equal opportunity advocate for forgiveness. If someone on the Anti MK board would ask me I would give the same answer.

    Should they forgive and move on? I would say of course, we should all more willing to forgive. I would also say that perhaps for them there is a little more to it than merely forgiveness.

    My sense is that perhaps there is an element of justice involved here. They do not merely feel themselves victimized but many strongly feel that this is an intrinsicly pervasive problem, thus fueling the desire for the existance of Mary Kay Sucks.

    For someone who is content in the organization it looks to them as though it’s a gigantic “bitch fest” but truly, I think that there is something more going on here.

    I am NOT saying that I know where the truth rests in this whole thing. I am merely giving my perceptions of the situation as something of an outsider.

  4. I also saw that blog when I first came to WordPress although, unlike you, I did not pop over to satisfy my curiosity. I must do so now!

    And yes, do let me know when you post things on your work about the dynamic of women who miscarry and their friends who continue their pregnancies. This is a topic we will bring up as my book moves along–I had a rough time with my pregnant friends and I don’t think I was alone on this.

    Good luck with your project!

  5. mrs metaphor –
    I found your site via your post with Mary Kay Rocks. I just wanted to send you a virtual hug – (((HUG))). Your neutral stance on the happenings in the virtual MK community is a breath of fresh air. You are absolutely right, we ARE called to forgive and to “treat others as we would have them treat us.” I have attempted to post on the “not so lady-like” blog but continue to be denied…in quoting scripture and pointing out that our words, actions, and deeds should glorify GOD and not bring a smile to the enemy’s face. Unfortunately, most of the posts I’ve read on that site aren’t spreading the love of Jesus but bringing the god of this world glory – helping him gain the upperhand in yet another area of some women’s lives. When negativity, hatred, scorn, insults, and the like are shared online, the enemy is sneaking in little by little as each person reads the posts.
    As you and any others read posts on any site, I encourage you to think about this as well — Does this site, post, and/or my comment bring glory to GOD or to the enemy?
    You have a FANTASTIC message here and I have enjoyed reading your various postings. Keep up the great work you are doing for HIS kingdom — “great is your reward”!
    Pink Hugs from a Mary Kay consultant who’s on fire for the Lord!!!
    (Believe it – Mark 11:22)

  6. Thank you PH, I’m pleased that you like the blog.
    I’m also pleased that my stance comes across as neutral, although I must confess that it is difficult to find the middle ground in such an emotionally charged field.

    Regarding your comment about posting or blogs bringing glory to God…I would encourage you to not post on the Mary Kay Sucks blog if it offends you. I think that they are pretty clear about their purpose so it would be a good idea for you to ask yourself, before you submit to the urge to post, ‘WHY’ you are posting.

    I have read a great deal on Mary Kay Sucks this past few weeks and strangely enough, while you didn’t find them spreading the love of Jesus, I did. I saw this most often in the posts responding to those who have been injured by MK and I also have seen the moderator of that blog put her foot down when things went too far.

    I have read people quoting scripture in correct context, sharing their stories, speaking of their faith in very real and solid ways. Now, I admit that many of the women there who post often do get a little out of hand and yet, I keep this in mind, this forum is not FOR someone who wants to chat about the niceties of MK, it is not FOR someone who is content with their MK experience. It is designed for those who are discontent and are seeking comfort, solace, justice and community.

    While this vision may get lost in the fray of battle and as you said, the work of the enemy to drive people apart, I believe the vision exists still…and I believe also that MKS exists with a bigger purpose than merely a place to complain. I hope that it will become an instrument for change. Time will tell what will become of all of this. My hope is that Justice will come…for whatever that will look like.

    Thanks again for your comments.
    Peace from one who knows the all consuming fire of God is without boundaries…

  7. The truth about Mary Kay is emotionally charging, Mrs. Metaphor. Where the problem lies is that my truth, which was not so pleasant (like many others), is said by Pro-MKers to be “not the norm”. We have also been told repeatedly that we are lazy, unmotivated, do not know how to run businesses, and are negative. The hatred from the women who are supposed to be “enriching lives” is bordering many times on psychotic. The emails I have received from Pro-Mkers about my blog have been scary, to say the least. MK Sucks, as well as myself, and Up Your Cadillac all have a mission to expose the truth and to warn people of what they may be getting themselves into. So like it or not MK ladies – we are here to stay.

  8. Hi Sandy
    I checked out your blog the other day and have read your posts on MKS. I, too have noticed an awful lot of consistency between stories of MK difficulties. I am currently writing a follow up to my MKS blog entry to delve into it further and add some additional insights.

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